The Five Known Victims of Jack the Ripper (Caution - Some pictures are graphic and gruesome)
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Jack the Ripper is the infamous serial murderer who victimized women in the Whitechapel area of London in the 1880’s. Inhabitants of the Whitechapel area were destitute. Their living conditions were deplorable. Whole families lived in one filthy room. It was not uncommon to find the rotting remains of dead rats, a pig, or a human body lying next to a naked, malnourished child. It was poverty at it’s most cruel. Adults and children alike did whatever it took to eke out an existence; to earn the cost of a night’s lodging and a chunk of bread to share with whomever they spent the night.
It was in this disgusting and hellish corner of London that Jack the Ripper gave these desperate women the one chance of escape they did not want.
Victim #1 Mary Ann Nichols Body Found August 31, 1888
Description at time of Murder: Age 45, Height 5’2”, Complexion Dark, Eyes Brown, Hair Brown turning grey.
Apparel at time of Murder: Brown dress with 7 large brass buttons, Grey woolen petticoats (reportedly recorded as being stenciled with “Lambeth Workhouse”), Flannel drawers and white chest flannel, Brown stays, Black ribbed woolen stockings, Men’s spring-sided boots and a Black straw bonnet trimmed with black velvet.
Mary Ann Nichols was the wife of William Nichols of 37 Coburg Street, Old Kent Road, though the couple had actually been separated for nine years due to Mrs. Nichols drunkenness and immoral habits. During their separation Mary was an inmate at several workhouses, the last of which was Lambeth Workhouse. She left Lambeth Workhouse in May of 1888 and entered the service of Mr. Cowdry. On July 12 of that same year she left there after helping herself to a number of items of wearing apparel. After that she spent nights in common lodging houses.
On the night of August 31, 1888, Mary Ann Nichols told the manager of the lodging house at 18 Thrawl Street to save her bed. It was 1:40 am and she had no money, so she set out to earn her night’s lodging. She was drunk at the time.
At 2:30 a.m. Ellen Holland who was staying at 18 Thrawl Street saw Mary Ann Nichols at the corner of Osborn Street and Whitechapel Road. She tried to get the drunken woman to return to the lodging house with her, but instead Mary Ann walk toward Buck’s Row where her dead body was later found.
At 3:15 a passerby named Charles Cross found the body of Mary Ann Nichols on the Buck’s Row walkway. He left to inform the police. In his absence Constable John Neil came upon the body. It had not been there during his last walk by one- half hour earlier. That fact coupled with there being very little blood at the scene lent the police to deduce the body was transported there after the murder.
Mary Ann Nichols was pronounced dead by Dr. Llewellyn who took her body to the mortuary. Her throat had been cut as had been her abdomen. Inquiries at the murder site offered no clues to the murder.
Victim # 2 Anne Chapman Body Found September 8, 1888
Description at time of Murder: Age 45, Complexion Fair, Eyes Blue, Hair Dark Brown Wavy, 2 Missing Lower Teeth, Large Thick Nose
Apparel at time of Murder: Black figured jacket, Brown bodice, Old dirty, laced boots
Anne Chapman had been residing at Timothy Donovan’s lodge house at 35 Dorset Street. On September 8, 1888 at 1:45 a.m. Anne was in the Donovan Kitchen. She was drunk and had no money. She soon left declaring she would be back and she would have money.
Back Yard No.29 Hanburg
At 6:10 a.m. Anne Chapman lay dead in the back yard at No. 29 Hanburg Street. According to Inspector Joseph Chandler she was “lying on her back, dead, left arm resting on left breast, legs drawn up”. Her throat was “cut deeply from left and back in a jagged manner right around the throat”. Inspector Chandler’s report also indicated her abdomen had been cut with her entrails on the ground above her right shoulder. The wall and fence near where the body was laid out was spattered with blood.
Dr. Phillips pronounced Anne Chapman dead and took her to the mortuary. His notes included a lot of information that never made it into police records.
The following are the clues that were overlooked or ignored:
Ø A piece of muslin fabric, a comb and a paper case were left by the body
Ø Two rings from Anne’s fingers, some pennies and two new farthings were left at the foot of the body
Ø An envelope and a piece of paper containing two pills were at the head of the body
On the back of the envelope was the seal of the Sussex Military Regiment
On the front of the envelope was a letter “M” and a postage stamp
Ø A leather apron soaked with water was found near a faucet two feet away
Some accounts have it as a partial apron
Though the apron was, for a while, considered a viable clue, all other items were discounted despite their being carefully arranged around Anne’s slain body.
Victim # 3 Elizabeth Stride Body Found September 30, 1888
At 1 a.m. behind a workmen’s club inside the gates of Dutfield’s yard in Bermer Street, Commercial Road East, Louis Diemshutz, Secretary to the Socialist Club, found the body of Elizabeth Stride. He rushed to report the incident. Constable Lamb returned to the scene with him, and then sent for Dr Blackwell and Dr Phillips who pronounced her dead at 1:10 a.m. The immediate area was searched, but no weapon was found.
The following outlines the doctors’ report on Elizabeth Stride:
Ø She was found lying on her left side with left arm extended from the elbow with small candies in her hand
Ø Her right arm was over her stomach – back of hand and inner wrist dotted with blood
Ø Her legs were drawn up, knees fixed, feet close to the wall
Ø Slightly torn silk handkerchief around her throat with throat being deeply gashed and showing a skin abrasion about 1 ¼ inches in diameter
The Evening News reported Elizabeth Stride also had grapes in her right hand claiming a man seen with Stride earlier had purchased grapes from a local vendor. Even though police reports stated two private detectives found grape stems in the debris swept from the site of the murder, the clue was dismissed as unimportant. (It is thought grapes were quite expensive during that time period and an unfortunate would not have access to them unless a wealthy person were to provide them)
Victim #4 Catherine Eddows Body Found September 30, 1888
After being in the Billingsgate Street Police Station for drunkenness, Catherine Eddows was released at 1 a.m. on September 30, 1888. At 1:45 a.m. Constable Watkins found her mutilated body at Mitre Square. Her face was unrecognizable from acts perpetrated by the murderer.
The following describes her injuries:
Ø A part of her nose was missing
Ø Her right earlobe was barely attached
Ø Her throat was cut
Ø Her abdomen was laid open and one kidney had been removed
Mortuary Photo
It has long been assumed Catherine Eddowes’ body was placed at Mitre Square after the murder and mutilation was performed in an empty building nearby. This conclusion was drawn from the report that at 2:55 a.m. a constable found a blood-stained apron next to a wall where the phrase “The JUWES are not the men That Will be Blamed for nothing” had been written in chalk. Nothing of import was derived from the phrase, but the apron and the removal of the kidney led Drs Brown and Phillips to suggest Jack the Ripper may have been “a hunter, a butcher, a student in surgery or a properly qualified surgeon”.
Victim #5 Mary Kelly Body Found November 9, 1888
Mary Kelly met her end in her own room at the 16 Dorset Street boardinghouse, No. 13. True to form, her throat had been sliced open, her body mutilated. In a strange twist, some skin had been removed from her legs.
Mary Kelly is considered to be the last of the Jack the Ripper victims, but little detail was reported of her or her death as compared to the previous murders contributed to Jack the Ripper.
It was said she was seen on the night of November 9, 1888 in the presence of a man with a mustache wearing a bowler style hat who was carrying a small, long, leather bag.
At this time in Whitechapel it was a belief, in the event of a violent death, the last image seen would be indelibly etched on the retina. Therefore, an industrious photographer took pictures of the dead eyes of Mary Kelly hoping to be able to finally learn the true identity of the elusive Jack the Ripper. Of course, this was to no avail.
Dorset Street in Whitechapel
Suspects
Suspects were numerous. Some were considered suspects totally due to general speculation, others because of descriptions, locations or occupations.
A popular theory named Queen Victoria’s grandson who was known as Eddy. From there it was then suspected Eddy’s friend and tutor committed the murders hoping Eddy would be blamed. The next link to Eddy was Dr. William Gull. Some theorized Dr. Gull killed women so they could not be connected to immoral liaisons with Eddy. His wife, however, claimed Dr. Gull was given to sporadic “manias for inflicting pain” and she had no idea where he’d been on the nights of each murder.
Coincidentally, another suspect, Montague John Driutt, who was rumored to have law offices and had been know to rent rooms in the Whitechapel area, bore an astonishing resemblance to the grandson of Queen Victoria, the notorious Eddy. Druitt took his own life in 1888; after which no further Jack the Ripper killings were reported.
In spite of more than a century of research, investigation and being the subject of numerous books and films, Jack the Ripper and his five victims remain a most ugly part of the Whitechapel/London history as the most infamous cold case in Scotland Yard’s files.
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How stupid are you? Royalty? This was an educated Doctor you moron.
Play nice. No need for name calling.
Actually, most of the doctors at the time said he possibly had some knowledge of anatomy, but was most likely not a medical man...but that's just what the research says.
i think the man is a crazy killer that got a thrill out of hurting innocent people.
If you wany to know the real story,
watch the movie From Hell with Johnny Depp and Heather Graham.
that movie is derived from the royalty theory and is based upon a book writen around the royalty theory
i think its cool :D
I do not believe he was a doctor! I do believe he was a man who recieved a great amount of pleasure by watching the pain & certain knowledge that these women knew they were destined to die and to die horribly. I believe it was curiosity that had him slicing these women's bodies apart & a doctor would have no such curiosity he would already know. It was also the final act of humiliation on these women to display them openly for all to see because he made no efforts to hide the bodies nor the crimes he comitted. He derived a great amount of sexual gratification by doing what he did out in the open as well as feeding his ego in the fact that he was never caught, or at least as far as anyone knows not for these crimes he comitted.
I dont think it was doctor but a moruge assitant or a butcher/huntsman
since other research states that he killed his wife before the first five were acknowledged in history it stated that they were in poverty and that even married women prostituted to make ends meet as well so maybe in theory he found of such thing that she could have been doing and it mite have drove him in same since again some research has stated that he escaped from a mental hospital things of this nature could cause a man to his breaking point so it might have been his mental side that caused him to take his revenge or built up anger on the streetwalkers of the night maybe he found out some news about his wife at night time therefore causing a sudden type of memory of the brain that seems to be triggered only at night in which he kills either starting to realize what he has done caused him to flee to new york where other murders were taken or maybe he hid to keep the heat away from him because it is alleged that he changed his name so that he may leave the country and started his killing spree again and alleged the last victim had an x carved in to her back and many people dont seem to think it was a letter but meaning the roman numeral 10 where he may have been showing the number of murders that actually took place with others that still to this day may have not been surfaced yet so it is possible he was just a healthy man that snapped because of the horrible truths that drove him to either be normal with a trigger or completely become insane this is just my opinion so dont take this as the answer to the case i am an eighteen year old girl and i think that this is a pretty good theory to conclude. oh and excuse the run on sentences that appear and the lack of punctuation.
i watched the depp movie and i think the freemasons definetly knew what was going on. The freemasons were a secret soceity and the queen knew also who was doing the killing. I also think that the freemasons secret soceity still has a sercet charter in todays soceity.
has anyone thought that it might have been a "Bobby" I mean isn't it possible that a policeman could have been Jack the Ripper seeing that a policeman would know the area from walking a beat and would be able to get close enough to these women to kill them but this is just an idea and is not based on fact just what i have read on the subject.
Apparently the identification of Jack the Ripper is known, and has been known for quite some time but there is some legal rule that his name cannot be released to the general public until a specific period of time has passed once his last remaining living descendent dies of - then we will all be told the secret of who Jack the Ripper actually was.
I dont think it really matters anymore who Jack the Ripper was. He has done what he set out to do and that was elude police and "fans" for years. He murdered 5 woman in a grotesque way, however whether he was a doctor, a butcher or Joe Bloggs down the road, it would be nice to know his identity but we will never know, so wishing it isnt going to make a difference, and most certainly name calling each other morons etc, most certainly isnt going to make a difference. Perhaps we should just accept that he was a murderer who eluded everyone for decades and does to this day.
what happened is he was a mason and the prince (everyone like the roal family was masons so like everyone involved were masons the men only of course) had marryed a prostitute and had a baby the baby was the heir to the throne is they found out the prinice marryed a prostitute his who life would be like (as they say now) over and the "papirazzi" would be all over him so he hired a hitman to kill the wife and the other ladies cause they were at the wedding and they were a wittness to the marage but if you DO watch from hell ull c that everyone involved is a mason BUT at the end the docter sayts hes the rippers
hes not it seems the ripper had sum 2 do that day and the docter filled in for him but the docter thought he was given a great deed and boasted to the detective so they tried to kill him (didnt wrk) and when he goes to kill the last women after he does he heres a voice that little mystarious voice is the REAL jack thats how u knoe that the doc wasnt him and the REAL jack the ripper was a real mason cause i have 2 friedns who are masons and they could look it up cause things like that are kept but that dosent mean the the masons are bad ppl and worship the devil
THEY DONT jack the ripper just happened to be a hitman that was amason cause even if he wasent a mason the prince probly would of gone to him any was and if u look past all the grammer mistakes (hah lol :)} and try to understand what im saying (even thought im just 12) i DO know what im talking about ive been studing him for months and mi mom has connections so if u do GOOD research ull relize that jack IS NOT a docter hes just an educated hitman and he hired the doster cause the doceter was educated and if u want to argue (ur gonna lose) my address is
www.dallas40@hotmil.com
I heard that a author spent four million dollars to solve the case and figured out he was an artist.
Jack the ripper was a crazy mother fucker and none of ya'll niggas can spell right. No one will ever know who he was what he was or anything about him, so drop this shit and go get a life and grow up.
maybe he was a she. there are certain theories that provide sufficent evidence that Jack was a Jill. Their main woman suspect is Mrs. Mary Pearcey. Look it up.
One thing is very clear, the actual investigation was pretty lame, police didn't understand about tampering with evidence back then so it's never going to be clear who did it. There is no point spending millions on a case that won't ever be solved because it's too late and too much evidence was lost.
Why does it have to be someone famous or eminent? The Eastend was full of cut throats and murders. It is most likely to have been an anonymous working class psychopath which ios why this crime was never solved.
requiya reynolds i think maybe you've thought too much into it, Iala too. I mean come on guys you're like "if you wanna argue (your gna lose)" give it up. thts just sad man. I agree with Kim. We can speculate, argue and wish but lets face it we're never gna know and the person tht says were gna be told after some desendants dies? Even if tht happens no 1 will believe it? There will always be second third and 1hundred guessing. So why cant we just talk about it and disagree without giving some kind of primary backchat its pathetic. Em anyway in my opinion it was a vendetta against prostitutes either from a religious view, revenge (as previously suggested in another comment) or indeed moral view. But I think he may have killed through a need for power, a mental disturbance or revenge and then cut them open to either make money out of the organs while he was at it or just to confuse the officials. Either way he's prob dead anyway and most definately took his secret to the grave. That's assuming he remembers, (if it was a he) wasnt excuted for other rime or imprisioned or still alive.
this is all stupid, the case will never be solved but if i had to pick someone, it would be royalty for me
Truthfully i think the Jack the Ripper case will never be solved there was too much evedince lost. But, i dont beleive that he was a psycopath. I seriously beleive he was just a person who could not afford schooling and decided to do his own "research". Or perhaps he was educated and he wannted to know more than what he could be told by other physitions, thus his brutal murders.I simply refuse to beleive that this man was a psycopath, he was just curious.
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Read Patricia Cornwells "Jack the Ripper". She has some interesting and eductaed theories on the identity of The Ripper. The artist Whistler, a well known misogynist.
Taylor: PROBABLY dead?? If not, he's 120 years old!
Completely Disgusting and Interesting!!!!!
“He did it out of curiosity" What is that? Based on the evidence he removed a kidney with one cut and without damaging any other organs. A doctor would not do it for mere curiosity but to prove they were God the personality of doctors particularity the English in that time Era were generally arrogant and soulless men that would gloat all day about their careers and professions. I also find it strange that the chief of police was a freemason and if you review freemason tradition, they are sworn to secrecy by their brethrens. Hasn’t any one seen the movie the Skulls okay like that but worse they are sworn to secrecy no matter what they know or see a brother do. Well I think that it was some type of cover up and for them to get away and never gotten caught they had two things going One they were above average intelligence which supports some sort of physician not to mention they also had anatomy experience. Two they had someone protecting their efforts and it was someone with power even over the police department. There is no way they could have gone that long without getting caught also the evidence specifies that the bodies were indeed moved from their place of murder. So I think that supports the idea they had someone helping them. He did not do it for any other reason other than to show that humans were capable of such repulsive killing methods and to leave his mark. One last entry with most serial killers they never stop until they are caught and in most cases, they want to be caught. In the Ripper Case, he stopped on his own unlikely behavior for a serial killer why? If it was for his mere amusement, why didn’t he continue? Why did he stop after killing such few women? He killed them in a period of weeks only not months or years like most serial killers function.
I believe that Jack the Ripper was a sick mother fucker that had some serious issues. He probably was either part of the investigation team or an aristocrat, meaning they were able to draw attention away from themselves or paid for other's silence. He probably killed only prostitutes becsause they were considered the scum of the earth pretty much an abomination. So I agree with the theory that it was a religious operation.
I think that Jack/jill was a very twisted individual. He/she did these killings just for the sick thrill of it. And how do we know that the killings stopped all together. Maybe they stopped in London because Jack/Jill moved on to another city or state. There where a series of unsolved murders in New York that year that were very much the same as the Ripper killings
jack the ripper is 'cool'
I think the who histroy of "jack the ripper" is kinda fascinating. not that i like the guy but reading all the theories.. we all have a different one as they did then..it to bad we may never know the real
If he was a seriel killer why stop after 5... its all a cover up by the police.. Dectective Aberline said 1929 they all knew who did it...yes it was linked to the free masons but it was Queen Victorias personal doctor who did the killings at her request after prince Albert fathering a child to a catholic who owned a tobacononist. Guess who the baby sitter was..Yes mary Kelly... She knew the other 4 victims as she told then the truth in the ten bells pub...
The royal family are murdering bastards and still doing it to this day...
I think Jack The Ripper was sane, he did not have a mental problem. In fact I think he was a genious for not being found. He knew they would never find him so he toyed with the police sending them letters with parts cut out of his victims.
one day
I think Jack had lack of technology and a lot of "luck" on his side. But there is no such thing as coincident, the east end was full of potential victims. It's crazy to think that the detectives of the time couldn't link these five women's lives together. It's hard to believe that the day he killed three women was planned, I think it was a random act of violence and probably would have continued had Jack not faced the karma of revenge. And I highly doubt that his identity has been known, that kind of information is impossible to keep a secret.
Look , the clues are in the writing on the wall , rearrange some letters and you will get it . Its a cryptic message. Also if you think about it , it was a cop that was doing the killing. I am currently attempting to get all sorts of info on the case if anyone has any clue how to do so write to me at xandar130@yahoo.com
ok so this migt sound weird and its probably already beensaid but i dont think Jack the Ripper killed Elizabeth Stride or Cathrine Eddows. think about this:
Marry Jane Kelly
Marry Ann Polly
Annie Chapman
they link to eachother Ann and Marry are common bettween all three of them, maybe he just wasnt killing random prostitutes maybe some one else killed Cathrine Eddows and Elizabeth Stride and that would explain her lack of mutilation more so than being "interupted". Its just a thought.
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The whole cover up conspiracy involving royalty and cop conspiracy makes it a much more interesting mystery. It makes much more interesting movies that way too. Jack the ripper was none of those. He was a disorganized killer that achieved great sexual gratification from his control and mutilization of his victims. Had an obvious hatred for women especially prostitutes. A person that did what he did was not an intelligent man. Lived in the area and was very disturbed. His murders kept escalating which with his last victim was very mutilated. This was a man suffering from Paranoia and delusions...he wouldve been a loner and locals thought of him as a crazy. His name was David Cohen. He is Jack The Ripper. After the last victim he was committed to an asylum which is why the murders stopped where he stayed till he died. No conspiracy just a crazy uneducated man that had a prostitute drunk domineering mother. It's very simple if you just use behavioral science and common sense. Sorry to spoil your conspiracy theories but From Hell was entertaining and that's it...oh and Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, as did Timothy Mcviegh and Sept 11th was perpetrated by a bunch of religious maniac muslims. O.J. Did it and Jon Bennet's parents killed her.
Most of the scores of suspects are thrown out the window when we arrive with the Kozminski or his real name David Cohen It's a long story but the same person. He was a poor polish jewish immigrant who hated women, and was mentally insane. The Royal family, doctors, lawyers, masons, are all good for sensationalism and continuing the mystique of a murderer who was basically was barbaric in thinking, and had average intelligence who was lucky not to be caught in the act. This is the only suspect that was spotted by numerous witnesses, and was clearly indentified by another a strong witness.
Look all of you can talk , assume , think , guess all you want , but the fact remains to many clues were lost or destroyed or hidden. Nobody knows who he was and will never know and if someone did know who he or she was is long dead . He or she was smart enough not to get caught and that's all there is to it! Cops or royality or doctors.... it doesn't matter anymore. The fact remains ...the women were killed in a horrible way and jack never got caught and then stopped or died or moved. LET IT GO....
he was a sick twisted evil waste of a human body: )
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I think that he could have been a doctor because he seemed to know what he was doing and how to cut them with such presition! I also think that he could have just had a steady hand and knew what he was doing by studying it! "/
Actually the case has been solved,he was an American Doctor by the name of Dalrymple.The murders only happened when he was in England,and stopped when he left.When he died he was a reasonably wealthy man,and they found some very cheap rings amongst his belongings,these have been identified as belonging to one of the women he murdered.There you go people mystery solved.Bye the way some of you really do need to invest in a Dictionary!!!
My believes and opinions will vary just as all of yours. I do need to say that there are too many what if's. The straight facts cannot be found. As a typical human we can come up with different theories off of one photograph or even on piece of evidence, which doesn't make myself nor anyone else right about how, who, or why the murders were commited. They happened. It may or may not stay unknown but there is always evidence being found for things that happened long before jack the ripper so it may be a matter of time. I myself have mixed feelings.
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I agree with a few of you who say that it could have been a religious belief that drove JTR to commit these horrible murders. The fact that it was only Prostitutes is what drives that point home for me. I also agree that we will surely never know as all of the evidence has been destroyed over a century ago. Everything from then on out is and will be speculation, including what I think. I highly doubt that we will ever know the true identity of JTR, unfortunately. That said, you all have some really interesting views on the subject and they are all really good and thought out. I too will continue to research and read about it, just because it has interested me for so long.
As to all comments yeah much as we have read is suppose to be gone or destryed but come on not every policeman in that time was stupid enough to allow all they're hard work go up in flames or get misplaced so yes I do believe the idenity of the ripper is known especially by the royals they know everything, the Masons were they're private physicians who kept all they're dirty health issue secrets so why would would any intelligent person think his identity wasn't found out. One thing I've seen in researching many strange and bizzare killings is when a country is embarrassed it managing to play the just as shocked as the public role to avoid accepting responsibility for not stopping it sooner. How do women get murdered like this in alleys around people doin the same thing and no one heard anything sex is not that good that your ear is deaf to weird noises especially if your a married man paying for it. Come on people we may never know but why should we than the talk, fun and speculation stops. Billy the Kid was big news too till Pat Garrett killed him, Bonnie and Clyde too all were big stories till they were killed than they became occasional conversations. Look at Charles Manson aren't we still reading and learning why he did what he did.
Sorry folks just my thought!
James Kelly is now considered the most likely and prime suspect. He fit the profile, and was in London, and New York at the times of murders. Watch Jack the Ripper in America, shows alot of facts and points in case.
I watched the James Kelly thing and they never said anything about removing the organs in a surgen like mannor. or being so good with the body just that he know how to use a knife
thank it relly helps as a writer
why dont u lot get a life, it was a jew who died of manic exhaustion.
Being a Mason There are a couple of similarities that could be found amoung those in the know amid death and Masonic teachings. I must say though because of the location of the bodies it would have to be done outside of Masonic teachings as murder is not upheld by any Masonic Lodge outside certain cryteria.
no one will ever know who or wat he/she was. so just stop fighting and move on.
yea what he or she said soo shut up and stop fighting
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One problem with the royalty theory (and there are many) is the author of the book (Stephen Knight) had the queen's physicion, Sir William Gull as the ripper. At the time of the murders Gull was 72 years old and had already suffered one stroke. He died in 1890 after having two more yet Knight had him running around Whitechapel like he was spiderman or something. There are a lot of coincidences with the victims names if one reads more than one book. For instance one source has Cathrine Eddowes pawning some boots the day before she died and leaving the name "Jane Kelly". The following morning when she was released from police custody just before being murdered she gave her name as "Mary Ann Kelly". Mary Jane Kelly's fathers name was John Kelly. Catherine Eddowes boyfriend was named John Kelly. Quite a coincidence on the surface but I got the information from 3 books by different authors. None of them confirmed all those factors. Also prostitutes often used each other's names which could imply that Eddowes and Kelly knew each other but it doesn't mean there was any relation.
i read one theory i found quite plausible......that a local butcher who contracted syphyllis committed the murders in vengful rage against prostitutes. in addition, some believe mary kelly was a copycat killing committed by someone she knew. kelly's murder was the only one committed in her residence, while the others were committed hastily in the street. but think about it...who better to walk around covered in blood unnoticed? and a butcher would possess sharp cutting instruments and a general knowledge of anatomy.and a butcher shop would be an ideal place to dispose of the victims pilfered organs......
your all dumb!
Jack the ripper was found it was supposedly from what i found a man by the name of James Kelley. In no way related to the murderd victim Mary Kelly. Notice the difference in the spelling of the last names. Kelley (Jack)
and Kelly (Mary)
at this moment in time this case would have been solved in an instent but back the vitorian times they did not have the right technolagy requiered to solve this case... all we have to go on is theories... i beleave the reason jack killed these women wasn't for revenge or some religus cause... it was to cause chaos... here we are fighting over who killed these women name caling and what not... not to mention the facty that the city probly was to afrade to step out side into their own back yards... jack the ripper enjoyed the thought that if any of these women had friends or family will be morning them for the rest of their lives...
who knows if the killer is still out there it could be a family thing passed down though generations an on and on so be care ful
who knows!?..we will never find out..
think about it... i have been reading a doing reserch on jack the ripper for months. the most obviouse killer would be Robert Mann, a local mortuary attendant. he was metionally ill and knew how to take care of a dead body. and when the apron was found, who wore an apron?? UMM ROBERT MANN! case solved =)
I have foind that the book " The diary of jack the ripper " has been very informal and I would have to say there really on something here it's a good book ....I give my name that all know of me so history do tell, what love can do to a gental man born.. It's about James Maybrick how he wroth of his murders and it was because of his wife cheating he decided to kill all whores....again very interesting u shoud get it
Seriously everyone!! just stop arguing about it because it was years and years ago! you all have your own opinions but as far as we know non of them are right!! Were NEVER going to find out who it was so if i where you just forget it! Dont take me wrong it was VERY wrong but still it was in the past and its probably never going to happen again!!
okay, he was not a doctor, he was specified as a lunatic, and had escaped from an asylum in his early years. history channel did a case on it, and found that he could easily blend into a crowd of normal people, but when the button gets pushed his other side shows. he killed his wife, and then created a string of murders to prostitutes. i dont know the exact name of him, but the people who investigated the case further had good proof on someone. i believe he was a butcher acually, he would kill with a butcher knife.
Actually they believe he was a man named James Kelly. He was a carpenter which explains the sharp knife and the way he gutted women like the fabric from furniture. He was way to sloppy to be a doctor or a butcher. The cuts he made were jagged. James Kelly murdered his wife then went to an insane asylum where he escaped two months before the Jack the Ripper killings started. They can also place him in New York during the time they believe Jack the Ripper was there killing prostitutes as well as Dallas TX. James Kelly returned to the asylum he broke out or forty years later. He was old and confused but confessed to many murders, although, he never confessed to being Jack the Ripper his murders match up to those of Jacks.
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Jack the Ripper was evil and thrilled from killing innocent people. These people did not deserve to die.He killed his own wife,and was nuts,and deserved a death worse than he did to his own victims.It is not "Jack"that is evil,so never see the name "Jack" as evil for it is "The Ripper"part that named his horridness.
If you read Patrica Cornwell's book you will see that with many of these comments yes he was an artist the reason he knew the anatomy of a female was because he had a deformity of his genitals where he was born with both female and male genitalia, his name is Walter Sickert read the book and you will understand.
How come he only attacked women??please reply i need to know for a school project about jack the ripper im in year 4 i know the teachers shouldnt make us learn about serial killers!!!!
oh my ghosh.
Lili,
Because he was a straight male and this was the way he got his sexual kicks. Chances are that he would have killed before Mary Ann but they're just not linked prob because they wasn't so severe. The killing stopped because he either killed himself or was locked away (mental hospital) He just wouldn't have been able to stop killing once he started. learn about FBI profiling it will help
There is much speculation on the ripper. So I submit my interpretation. Jack the Ripper was a medical student or a doctor at the time and desired fresh corpses to practice with and since he could not get them any other way he sought out the dredges of humanity (whores) who he felt had nothing to lose. He did his "explorations" leaving the victims to die. None of the victims were sexually assaulted at least not that they could prove. So I do believe that he was furthering his knowledge on human anatomy.
yes but he wasn't really furthering his knowledge was he, he knew he only had moments with the victims otherwise the chances of him getting caught would have dramatically increased. Surely he could have got fresh corpes by robbing new graves. So the killings point to an urge a 'fix'
James kelly was.100% Jack the Ripper. Do the research people its worth the effort. I recommend Jack th Ripper in america on cables ID channel it will blow ur mind & put ALL doubts to rest!
Francis Tumbelty was the ripper,he was a woman hating gay psychopath.
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He was a sick manand so are all the people who thinks this is funny!!!
this guys nasty like the way he cuts his victims is like what a hunter would do slit the throat to drain alot of the blood but then the rest of like wtf who does that
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" Perhaps it could of been James Kelly" the killings of that time and day month could of been planned of that time and day, We all can say That Jack knew where to go to get his victims.And very much did his horrific deeds of that time.And times were pretty bad. Why the reason and what he did remains a mysterious mystery of today."
its a who done it by all means. We all assume who. the only eveidence could make a issue if the bodies were assumed to be dug up and asked by the families. to fine out dna evidence. For that they were barried with hair samples could be there of the one who did it. a lot of you people here say free mason. yes they are known to say nothing my uncle was a mason and he vowed a oath not to say nothing of he knows what they do. most of you said Robert Mann,James Kelly, David Cohen, Dalrymple-American Doctor, people assume James Kelly was the one from his back ground" some one could look up Dr. Neill Cream could be (Jack the Ripper) let me know at my email maineoutreach@hotmail.com
if Neill Cream. could of another one to find read about Angus McLaren a historian of who talked about Jack The Ripper.
my great grandmother encountered a man near london bridge, he asked her where she had been and where she was going, she told him she had been to see a doctor and was on her way home to make supper for her family....he told her to be on her way and not to come back.....was she nearly a ripper victim, and did she escape because she wasnt a woman of the night?..
I'm going with my first feeling it had to be a doctor and when I have watched and read about it I WILL SAY there were two people I'm convinced of that and I will always say it was sir william gull
I have lots of back and forth theories that I go between about who Jack was, but more importantly,most of you people need to learn how to spell,and how to put a sentence together!To the 12 year old kid,you are obnoxious!
I agree with Jennifer about the Jack the Ripper in America theory...It shows a timeline thats difficult to refute.
Im so sick of people like the first commentor, "Donna" leaving their ignorant and rude opinions all over the internet. There isn't enough room in the cosmos to house all the comments bleated by idiots. Almost ruins reading the story......
I've always bbeen interested in the Jack the Ripper mystery, but I don't concern myself with who he was. It's interesting to think that Prince Albert was the killer, but not very plausible. Likewise, the mason theory depicted in the movie "From Hell" ( an excellent film) is presented skillfully but I have a hard time believing it. Caleb Carr, author of the tour de force "The Alienist", was said to have so disliked Partica Cornwell's book that he said she should apologize for having written it. While I admire Carr's work, I found Cornwell's premise to be interesting, but she had no real evidence to offer that Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper. Harold Schecter, one of the foremost writers in true crime today (in my opinion), raises the point in his book "The A-Z of Serial Killers" that Jack the Ripper mayu have committed suicide after the murder of Mary Kelly, because the savagery of that attack showed a profoundly disturbed mind that , he believed, was disintergrating. It would certainly explain why the killings stopped after just five. A man who butchers women in this way isn't going to stop after five; he would continue until he was captured, left the area, or died. I watched a program on the James Kelly theory, and it was provocative, but there were many killers in the United States around that time who could easily have been mistaken for Jack the Ripper.
its so dosgusting but it is cool in way
he most definitely had some medical knowledge and a thing for anatomy
He killed cattle. Each one of the victims had dowdy brown and black clothing. He equated women with cows. Were cows killed by slitting their throat and then opening their bellies? What I found interesting was the position of the bodies. Legs positioned, the right hand positioned over the belly. Each murder was more gruesome than the next. The last one, of the one murdered in her room, tells me the killer had lots of time to linger over the body. Interesting how quick the women were snatched and killed. All were drunk, roaming like sad stumbling cows. During that time of the killings, who was involved in the cattle industry? Skin was taken from the last victim. Don't we use cow skin as a form of clothing? leather? This wasn't royalty.
REALLY. Ever think of the mother hating theory? People were poor. Who was angry at the time? I know 45 was old at the time, but come on! mary must have been diferent? We will know, but not for sure, ever. Love my mother, watch out for his???
why oh why do u all keep harpin on about jack the bloody ripper, get a bloody grip,, it was years ago , he aint worth yr time,its way to late to help any of the familys now, spend yr time a little better, like maybe learning to spell
That is so just nasty, you know that some serial killers kill the same way Jack the Riper did.
It was wm. Gull
why don't we all just except the fact that this sick twisted maniac killed prostitutes for some kind of messed up justice but he was never caught and he is dead right now. he might have decendents they might be following in his footsteps, but it is not in our right as common citizens to try to find him out when he is already dead. let the victims of jack the ripper rest in peace and stop debating the inevitable.
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hey dude cool name but thats totally not wat happened!like some people believe that he just had a disobility, others beleive that he did it because his mother was a prostitute?beleive wat u want people can believe wat they want.XD
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Jack the ripper was twisted.....whether he was a doctor or a butcher!!! any person who kills innocent women for NO reason is mentally ill!!! PS: some of you people commenting and saying stupid stuff its annoying like this is to comment if u have something to say about JACK THE RIPPER we do not care if ur drunk or if u like cheese burgers..... seriously? grow up!!!(BBM not interested face)>Real talk from SA!!!
Jack the Ripper stopped his killing in England, because he came over to the United States and started killing over here.. One of his killings ocured in Jackson, California..
actually the dna recovered from the letters can only tie the person to the letters but not to the murderer.
for gods sake, the police have spent time and money trying to solve this case for years, do you lot really think your sad little views are worth posting
Jack the Ripper was positively identified as Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence. Queen Victoria's Nephew. He was in a hospital at the time. When the witness was informed that he was the queen's nephew, he changed his story, and was found dead 1 week later in the very same hospital.
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I have read many books about jack the ripper, one suggested that he moved to America and continued killing, leaving the bodies in various bell towers, the damage he did to the bodies was a lot like the ripper's work, but who knows? He was a sick, twisted individual and is long dead.
Oh yes I killed them build a bridge and get over it!
Jack could not handle a womens back talk.
So he did something about it. Most men aren't
like Jack thats why he was never caught. He had know
scrooples about life itself. BIGBIG LOSERLOSER
k i honestly have no idea what to think of all this but all i kno is that Jack the ripper had a reason to do all this and ya its terrible what he did and these women did not deserve any of it, we will never truly kno why he did all this and we will never figure out who really did it either, i dont think it was royalty they get enough publicity after them why attract that kind of attention, sure prostitutes are bad but they did what they had to do back then doesnt mean they deserved to die, i also dont think it was a doctor why would they do that? it had to have been someone who had a curiousity they couldnt control, and for people who said it was cause of a disabilty ur definetly wrong! seriously people who have disabilities arent like that, my brother is handicapped and he may be a little slow in the head but that down mean all handicapped people are crazy, something had to have happened in Jack the rippers life that made him do this, no offense to anyone but calling eachother names and putting eachother down is so fuckin rude everyone has a right to an opinion... what done is done Jack the ripper got away with his killings and we will never know who truly did it !
Obviously this is a mystery that people with a "normal" fathom of good vs. evil think is horrific.. I too have also read "the ripper" came to America after his horrific crimes... but, this is obviously an educated man in some form of anatomy whether he be a huntsman butcher or doctor... but, you cant dimiss the positions of the bodies inwhich all seem to be in the fetal possition laying on their left side... the man was pissed at his mother his killings despite the cutting and torture all tell you he wanted attention from his drunken whore of a mother... He only felt that conection when he did his slayings... but you all have to learn about london at the time of jack the ripper all the grave robbings, the homeless killed, the church even built its first hydrolic table inwhich to lower the dead deeper into the earth... the medical students in london alone at that time demanded more than 3000 bodies a year for research... so dont dismiss the doctor theory so easily but also one fact remains that stands out they were all in the fetal position... mommy please?! so stop your bitching and name calling this event is not cool or human it is sick and twisted and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.... but be reasonable dont glorify one of londons most horrific events.......
The Real Jack The Ripper, by James Tully, The Secret of Prisoner 1167. Read this then discuss. I think this a much more plausible possibility than the sensational Royal murderer theory.
Also take into Account that there were the severl different cults that required human sacrifice or at least their body parts: example, the uterus of a sexually active woman or something like that will make it so an infertile woman could become pregant if eaten or burned in the presence of the infertile woman, or whatever wierd and disgusting things they thought of those days... So sell the body parts on the black market and BOOM! poor guy in the slums of London just made himself enough money to retire from his killings and live in peace to the end of his days.
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this is very interesting and no one really knows who he is. there are loads of theories who knows which is right?
First of all they don't know if it was one or more killers involved. With all the media coverage it would have been easy for copycat murders to be committed. And for those of you who base your theories on a "From Hell" movie, I'm just thankful you don't work as crime investigators today. Duh!
It is said that the detective of the case was jack the ripper as the Mr Lusk letter was the same handwrithing as his but the Dear boss letter was forged by someone in the newspaper buisness just to get some papers to sell and Jack the ripper would have to be a person who the women trusted or looked ritch so that they would go over to them to get some lodgings so they had to approach them somehow
this guy was sick your opinion is intitled to you. you can think it was royalty, a doctor or who you want. no one out there knows. he must have told some one. he was the man of the dark.
I have read all of yalls theories but only one can be right I think every one should do more research and talk through comments and figure it out.
I had a strange dream of a leather bound copy of songs for your conscience! the leather was pale like human skin! inside the book was the identity of the ripper. I had this dream before I found out that skin had been removed from a victim! Or it could be that I watched too much mentalist!
I can't believe someone would actually want to do that kind of stuff! I mean, i know those women were sexuel offenders (prostitutes) but still...it's just wrong!
Jack the Ripper was a psycho
Jack the Ripper was a psycho
maybe it was just someone who had benn hurt by these poeple and wanted revenge. maybe it was a women ?
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What is the most common theory? Doing an unsolved murder project for my English class.
Have read quite a number of the Ripper theories and, up until recently, was of the opinion it was most likely James Kelly (dates of the killings, in the country at the right times, etc) but I am reading another book at the moment and am now tending towards the mortuary attendant theory (Robert Mann?) for the mutilation of the bodies (even if he didn't perhaps kill them). As a mortuary attendant would have the anatomical knowledge and the opportunity (the book I am reading at the moment puts forward the suggestion that the victim's body could have been mutilated later within the mortuary and a mortuary attendant could be selling body parts for medical research.
Seriously I find the subject interesting but most of your comment are crazy!!! None of you have any idea who he is and why does it matter your never know. And to the sick bastards who wish they could continue the rippers work you are clearly a very sad pathetic person. Crawl in a hole some where and dont come back. I hate to say this but in my opinion other murders have done worse at the end of the day they were just whore.
he probly was a man who was poor and was hungry and he had no wemon so he got them and took them to eat the orgins he took
What about Joseph Barnnet? He didn't like Mary Kelly working on the streets so killed these other women to stop her as it scared her! But she still had to make ends meet so she went back on the streets when she and Joseph split up So he killed her!
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i think the man is a horblie monster to do tht to people why did ???? something must of happend to him
I wish to proceed with his work, i wish though to have sexual intercourse with the bodies, and then catching squirrels to tickle my balls. Im his biggest fan.
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in realtion to the second comment on this page, your justification for the innocence of royalty is that is was an educated doctor who commited thses murders, when infact you are wrong. Thomas bond, a police surgeon at the time, oppossed the ides that these murders were performed by a proffesional, and that they lacked any kind of scientific or anatomical skill, or even the tecniqual skill of a butcher or horse slaughterer.The murders themselves were not about the actual killing itself, but about control. 'Jack the Ripper' as we call preyed on female prostitutes. It was symbolisism for the Ripper to cut there throats and abdomens, and leave them in degrading positions, almost on display. I am not psychologist but the most plausable explanation for why he murdered these women, based on EVIDENCE is that he got a sexual thrill from killing them, and the thinking behind the structure of the murder is that prostitutes will do what ever the person who is paying them tells them to do, and so The Ripper demonstrated this by the positions he left them in, that they were filthy and degrading, that of a prostitute if it would get them the money. I am by no means justifiying the murders what so ever, but i do not believe we cn judge a person, or case, without understand why the did what they did.
omg my namesake is soooo freaky. I wanna see sum pics of his victims!!!
I believe that this man was a sicko and I think however made this site is just as sick! I think "Jack The Ripper" is a lunatic, but who doesn't? I think that it was... John Elway! :)
This is response to Fin Okay Thomas Bond was simply stating his own opioion he was not the only leading investigator on the case. Also if Ripper Preyed on prostitutes then why did he stop after killing only five? Is it by mistake that they all knew each other and also they were all friends? Why is that out of the thousands of unfortuate women turned to prostitution in White Chapel they were not threatened by The Ripper killings. Why is it that he chose to target those particular women ONLY! Also how can a man with no anatomy experience work confined to limited space in the DARK remove organs and mutilate women. Not even a butcher can do that without making a mess it was someone trained and used to working under those difficult conditions everyday.
If he were still alive, I would marry him. Such amazing works of arts he created with those womens bodies...
I agree with XXX he did a fantatic job on these women. I think credit goes to Francis Tumblety
i beliee that jack the ripper was a perfectly sane man. he had a sick twisted sense of humor. i met him only once and if i do recall he had a hankercheif over his face and a pleasant voice. there is a book savage i think all should read of the heoric deeds of trevor bently who with his lady jesse sue longly put an end to the bloke.
He was coniving, evil, sick, twisted mann....who would even think of doing that to innocent ppl....juss cuzz their prostitutes....they need to make a living too! ahhaaa :P...
I dont think he was ever caught Samantha i think he stopped killing and went on living his little life, i mean he wanted to make a name for himself, to make his life worth something. and since he did it he can go on living his life, or he killed homself, which i would have done if i did what he did.
This guy is awesome
has long been assumed Catherine Eddowes’ body was placed at Mitre Square after the murder and mutilation was performed in an empty building nearby. This conclusion was drawn from the report that at 2:55 a.m. a constable found a blood-stained apron next to a wall where the phrase “The JUWES are not the men That Will be Blamed for nothing” had been written in chalk. Nothing of import was derived from the phrase, but the apron and the removal of the kidney led Drs Brown and Phillips to suggest Jack the Ripper may have been “a hunter, a butcher, a student in surgery or a properly qualified surgeon”.
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I heard that too. It's strange that there were 7 police officers in the immediate area at the time of Eddowe's murder. 2 were patroling the area. 1 lived right there in Mitre Square (he was home but asleep). Another (a retired constable) was sweeping out a warehouse in Mitre Square and there were 3 detective-constables in the area checking doors and windows. How the hell could he have done that in the middle of all of them? Course these cops were supposed to be patroling that area so they're going to say they were but one wonders if maybe some of them weren't off on an unauthorized break or something. They probably wouldn't admit it if a murder took place were they were supposed to be would they? Here's the kicker. After the Nicoles and Chapman murders the City of London police enacted a policy to follow women who were released from custody after dark. Eddowes was released at 1:A.M. but no one followed her. If they had they may have caught him or at least saved Eddowe's life and maybe Kelly's too. What a shame.
that is sooo gross!!! it totaly ruins your appetite.
I honestly think he was a very educated person about anatomy. Not saying he was a doctor, just very educated. He probably thought mutilation was interesting and wanted to persue it on people.
But hey, that's just my opinion.
I don´t know why, but I LOVE HIM!
He was veryy clever, I don´t know, but he´s amazing, sexy, ahusahusahusha
He´s like a normal person, but in his free time he kills women(prostitutes)...
I´m looking foward to study his letters, his life, his murders!I don´t know I really love him, seems like i´m addicted! hehehe...
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I suggest anyone who's genuinely interested in the history of "Jack" and his work watch a program on the Discovery Channel called "Jack the Ripper in America". A Baltimore homicide detective goes through a very complete investigation of all of the reports in the National Archives in London and all of the evidence available regarding murders in New York City that match the Ripper M.O. According to him, the most likely suspect was a man named James Kelly who was an upholsterer and an escapee of the Broadmore lunatic institution. Look it up.
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I heard he killed his wife origanally the same way he killed all of his other victims. Then he was locked up in a Mental Hospital. He made a home-made key and then killed all thoose women.
P.S. they think they did find out who he was, James Kelly. And he, at one point, killed three other women in the USA.
I think he may have been a doctor he said something about it in one of his letters but that also could have been a way of tricking them as well idk all i know is this guy was crafty, I also heard they thought he only killed hookers cuz his mom was a hooker?
i find this case very interesting. but maybe there was a copy cat from the spaced out time period.
He's my hero
READ THE BOOK PORTRAIT OF A KILLER: JACK THE RIPPER CASE CLOSED BY PATRICIA CORNWELL!
I have done alot of research on this, and I think there is significant evidence suggesting it was someone who had royal ties
how did this all happen?? if the police couldn't find out who is he... he must be really good... why isn't he captured?? the suspects that he killed must have had really bad injurries
Jack The Ripper Must Have Been A Guy Who Never Loved Women..Came from A Broken Down Home..Or Maybe A Ghost,He Just Disappeared Into Thin Air..We Will Never Know.
he was a serial killer you idiot why would he marry you if he kills women then he would just probbily kill you.
And they wernt amazing works of art they were savage and brutal imagain what you would be saying if polly nichols or liz stride or dark annie or catherine eddowes or mary kelly was your friend would you be saying that?
yeah connor i agree with you i mean,i dont want to rant on anyone but why on earth would you marry a man that carries around a blade inside his pocket?:)
lucy,whoever you are you cant just come up in this page and just start agreeing to everyones little "rant"!
um,kate i dont even know who you are so please quit saying things about me!:(
PLEASE!you know who i am we went to that thing together then you thought that i well remember!:(
Oh i thought that i smelt whore!>:(
just please can we talk about this on the bottom one that way we wont have to clutter this thing up!/:)
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I wonder what happened... do you think he was caught by someone, killed, and they never said anything? I wouldn't. I'd just be happy that it was over with!
Scotland Yard's top suspect was Dr. Francis Tumblety, he fit all the qualifications the killer had to have: some knowledge of anatomy, he hated women prostitutes, etc. I'm writing a (fiction) book on this, and I based my story around Dr. Francis Tumblety. If you would like to know more about this, visit http://casebook.com and search Dr. Francis Tumblety. It really is a great site for anyone interested! Also the man himself is quite interesting!
The butler did it.
As easily as this man couldve been a medical man, he couldve been an artist. he individualized each of his grusome murders and if you think... it was sort of artistic.
I bet this guy was horribly abused in his childhood. His parents might be to blame for him being the most notorious serial killer in human history.
there were 8 victims if u must know how please read the letter that was supposedly sent by Donald McCormick
If you actually did research on Jack the Ripper then you would know that they tried to link at least 11 murders to the Ripper however they could only link three of the murders together. There is doubt about weither two of the victims should be included in the list. And generally only five victims were believed to be the work of Jack the Ripper.They were refered to as th Canonical Victims.
Jack the Ripper was a sick twisted monster. Killing for the feeling of the vitims pain and torcher is completly wrong its amzing that there are other people that think the same as him. He truely master commiting the perfect crime for those years always one step ahead, and whose to say he stopped killing they never caught him or found his body. It is the fact that they didnt find anymore victims did they close the case. Sometimes I wonder if someone who thought he was amazing might be plotting to copy his work it is quite scary that a human was capable of doing such damage to another human and only find a thrill out of it so they do it again. 5 people were not enough for a monster that sick, he had to kill more and I hope no one ever repeats this. Though forensics have come a very long way sense then it is quite digusting that a person could mutalate another person it such a way that is indiscibable. No one has and never will have a mind as sick and twisted as Jack the Ripper. This world is messed up today and full of people with twisted minds and this is the worst i have seen yet. They discovery of forensics happened a long time ago when a young woman was killed in a village and the father could tell her stab wound was from a shovel. The woman's father made all the other men stand in the middle of the village holding their shovels. He waited there and flies started to collect aroung on shovel he looked closer and discover blood on the shovel. The man was kiled and forensics was created. Jack the Ripper eluded all forensic evidence from being left behind.
oops.. as i was saying to bad we will never know the real killer.. just to feed our curiosity cuz it wont do any other good knowing it.. cant exactly prosecute a dead man.... but i have heard of another theory.. laugh if u wantonly a story i heard that did make some sense i guess... so it goes "jack" was with a women(whether if it was his wife or a prostitue i cant remember) and the woman had syphillis and had given it to him(back then it was a horrible disease as they had no cure, would break out in sores around the mouth and genitals.Untreadted it also spreads to major organs and can cause brain damage)and obviously had transmitted it to him. after the syphillis had gone untreated for so many months yrs who knows he began to have brain damage causing him to go a lil... well psyco .. .. now liek i said this is a story but it would kinda explain.
i dont think he had any sexual gratification out of killing them... the women he killed did not have any sexual trauma, and the police found that he did not masterbate near or on any of the bodies.. my opinion is that he was burned hard by a lady maybe even the diseased one and in his pyscotic rage he mutilated them to show how ugly they are or to ob make them ugly or to show his power over them.The taking of trophies is exactly that to keep something to remember and relive the murder as many of todays killers do.i do think it was a doctor... not may people can cut open a person fromt the FRONT to take a kidney without harming any other tissue which is exactly what he was able to do... also to know how and where to cut them?? he was able to determine which way to cut, so he would not be splattered with blood (right to left i believe) .. he was also very capable of using his knife very well. to cut the kidney out and to remove the other ladys genitalia.... anyhways just my opinion iam really curious about why... i mean the whole disease story sure i guess it could make sense but to me it just doesnt seem the logical answer... guess we will never know hmm....
muhuhuhuhahahha you shall never figure out my true identity.......................
ps. james kelly
this type person has a lack of feelings-empathy for people ther is some thing wrong with their frontal lobe of the brain. they have no feeling about doing wrong-IT IS AS DROPPING APEICE OF PAPER ON THE STREET-DEATH IS JUST AS SIMPLE
well i think it was some one in the royal family, i mean after eddy took his own life the reports stopped. No one has reported a killing since then, so it had to be him
I'd actually heard that they were thinking that Jack the Ripper was a woman. The history channel had a special about it lol.
i'd like to see someone do more research on the five cannonical victims. from what i've read all were married at one time, 3 had children and 3 were not "full time" prostitutes. certainly none came out of the womb that way. even "respected" women were pretty stereotyped in those days (much more than today). for example annie chapman's husband said he left her because of her drinking yet he died 3 years before her from pserosis of the liver. too much tea and milk i guess. liz stride actually did charitable work for the salvation army. anyway each of them has a story that deserves to be told. god knows they paid the price for it, and no, i'm not a woman.
all i know is that he hates prostitutes....
to caitlin
right, but so did the yorkshire ripper and not all of his victims were prostitutes were they? personally i think he did hate them but i'll concede that he may have gone after them simply because they were the easiest victims. no one protected them and few people cared what happened to them, at least not till the murders started scaring the hell out of everyone. hardly anyone showed up at the first victim's (nicoles) funeral but by the time kelly was murdered thousands of mourners were showing up. i saw "from hell". the hughes brothers did a great job reconstructing the crime scenes but the rest is pure fantasy. the royal conspericy theory was discredited years ago by donald rumblow and more recently by robin o'dell (ripperology). it's very likley that mary kelly WAS the fifth victim ad abberline was married 12 years at the time of the murders. he remained married until his death in 1929 (his wife died a year later). i doubt if he'd have messed with any women in whitchapel in light of the spread of syphllis which occurred at that time.
I Think that he may have just thought prostitution was wrong and decided to do something about it because of his beliefs Excuse the spelling. but I still think that he may have been crazy too so don't quote me but I'm just learning about him today so i will keep searchin thank you for the info.=D
It would be interesting to find out if there is any forensic evidence that could be looked at from the cases, or if the bodies could be exhumed. If they can find out who King Tut's parents were then they could possibly find some type of evidence to connect to each of the killings. It may be that he was very good at carving his victims because he had committed other killing, elsewhere, and learned from experience. Maybe he traveled from county to county, killing 5 or 11 prostitutes doesn't just stop unless the perp is unable to continue, one way or another, died, moved, incarcerated, etc. One does not commit something like these killings to see how it feels and then doesn't like it, so he quits. Most serial killers will operate in a certain pattern. If a white man kills white prostitutes then he usually stays with white prostitutes, if you have a serial killer killing gay men they don't usually kill gay women. They follow a certain pattern. Crazy people with an organic brain disease, such a syphilitic encephalopathy would not be able to be sane sometimes and not others. I would escalate until the person became unable to function physically. JR would certainly have had to know the streets well to be able to escape being seen or apprehended. White Chapel was good hunting ground as these people were uneducated, very poor and desperate, and the thought for most of these people would have been kill or be killed, eat or be eaten, desperate people do desperate things. I would say that JR probably had a very abusive life and probably did have a mother that was a loose women if not a prostitute, this would not have been unusual in this particular time and place. Maybe sexually and or physically abused. I would believe that he was mid 30's, and lived alone, otherwise a family would have noticed something and with any chance of reward would probably have been incentive enough to turn him in. He would have needed to be in fairly decent health to navigate the streets and to be so agile in his killings. People of that time did not have longevity for the most part. He killed at night because that's what most killers do, kind of hard to hide in broad daylight, and he may have had some type of job during the day to provide the lures he used to get close to the women, food, fruit, money to show, even if they never rec'd it. He was an opportunistic killer, satisfying his own needs. England certainly would not want to have it be known that JR was in anyway connect to the crown but I also believe the English would rather not admit that they were unable to catch him. Forensics was almost none existent with the exception of fingerprints just beginning to be used and the police force consisted of men that were only slightly more intelligent than the average street person. In those times only the rich were educated. But being uneducated doesn't mean you can't be cunning, sly and sneaky, as most of the street people were. It seems ridiculous that anyone would say, as soon as there are no more descendants then we will tell you who he is, who would the "we" be that would tell if everyone is dead? Why tell at all in that case. This is certainly a very,very cold case, but I would tend to believe that some day, some way, some one will crack this case.
All of you people,well if you want to call yourselves people should be put out of your misery for making such appalling comments, these women met with such horrific deaths. Let us see if something happened like this to you or one of your relatives then let us see how your opinion changes on this matter. These women were people too, these women did not have a choice on what their occupation was. Actually back then they did not have a choice on their occupation. It was unfortunately what it was! But you all must have a brain deficiency to think that this moron jack the ripper is an idol. I think that he must have been part of a secret order or politician or wealthy and they found out what he had done and gave him an ultimatum, stop or be stopped. He is a coward, everyone keeps saying that these people are intelligent no matter how elusive they are.That if they were smart they would not have commited these crimes. That is an intelligent person. I hope that one of rumors is true that he was commited by this secret order to an institution for the insane and that a libotomy had taken place and was left what he should be a blithering idiot!
Sherlock,
I've often wondered about that. If you look at the so called five cannonical victims it's obvious (except for Stride who's murder most authors think was interrupted) that the mutulations became progressively worse but even Nicoles had her neck cut twice, her abdominom slashed open and her genital area stabbed several times. Kind of makes one think of the middle rung of a ladder, that there had to be others before her. Maybe he was a recent local who had lived in the area years before since he obviously knew the grounds. Has anyone checked on somewhat less henious murders before Nicoles in say Ireland, Scotland, Wales or other parts of England?
Angus I totally agree with you (see my comment above). These women wern't high priced call girls. They were just trying to survive in a time and place that didn't allow much chance to do so. I don't dislike Queen Victoria but Victorian society was (and is) well known for its social hypocrisy. Many men paid for sex and then called these women whores, bagtails, pinch bricks, etc. What the hell kind of "Gentleman" does that? It's hard to pity the ones who managed to pick up syphllis do to their own irresponsible behavior. Matter of fact the ripper may well have been a man like that.
No, I don't believe the ripper just "stopped". The police and vigilance committee were looking for him but there was a third group which had a vested interest in getting rid of the ripper. The gangs of pimps or so called "bullyboys" of that time. He sure wasn't doing their revenue any good. Could they have been laying for him and just got lucky some night after the Kelly murder? Think about it. Who would know better than a pimp where these women took their clients? Disposing of his body wouldn't have been too hard with Whitchapel full of slaughter houses. Could some prostitute (unknowingly of course) have had him for breakfast? Maybe there was some poetic justice after all. Frankly I'd have locked him up for ten years and then taken him to Tsavo and tied him to a tree. Let those two lions show him what "ripping" really means. Oops, little off topic here.
I'm reading Patricia Cornwell's book now. She's obviously an execellent forinsic specialist and I hear a good author too. Trouble is, like James Tully she seems to be fixated on one suspect. If one basis facts on theory and they don't match it's very tempting to change, distort or ignore certain facts. On the other hand if one does the opposite and they don't match one can always reformulate another theory because you still have a solid foundation of truth (the facts) to base it on. Cornwell based a lot of her theory on DNA samples but the DNA she extracted was mitocondrial (secondary), not nuclear (primary) DNA. Secondary DNA represents about 1% of the population which would have been about 200,000 people in England at that time. Since there are currently about (if one really stretches it) 150 ripper suspects that hardly narrows it down. In those days people often posted letters at the post office so virtually anyone could have "licked" the stamp. The letter Cornwell extracted the DNA from could have been handled by dozens if not hundereds of people before reaching it's destination. Simply put, secondary DNA can be used to eliminate a suspect but not to identify one. Cornwell also seems to imply that she "toured" the sight of the fifth victim (Millers Court) which was demolished in 1928. If she did then she holds her age quite well because she looks attractive in that photo in her book. She also mispells the name of the fourth victim (Eddows as opposed to Eddowes) throughout the book. I don't think she delibertly lied, I make plenty of typos myself but it does indicate she didn't pay much attention to some details which easily have been avoided if she'd done some reasearch on other books about the ripper including some of the most renowned like Donald Rumblow, Stewart Evans, M.J. Trow or Robin O'dell.
Omg I enjoyed reading the comments more than the actual hub. Tho the hub is quite informative bt the comments are really really interesting.. cheers!
An interesting note of trivia on the Kelly murder. As the crime scene photograph shows she was wearing a chemise or some other light inner garmet. Most accounts also say her outer garmets were neatly folded on a chair. If she was entertaining a client wouldn't she be in her "birthday suit"? And why neatly fold her outer garments? Prostitutes don't operate that way. For them it's get in, get done, get out. That's how they make their money. And what was the client (the ripper?) doing while she was neatly folding her outer garmets? Maybe sitting in a corner browsing through a copy of National Geographic? Maybe Kelly was done for the night and had turned in. This of course has led some to believe Kelly was attacked in her sleep. If so he may have stalked her. She didn't have a key so he might have seen her reach through the window to unlatch her door thus aquiring knowlege of how to get in. Her male friend (Joeph Barnett) also knew how to get in but Abberline cleared him after questioning. We don't have any other info on it but Abberline was considered to be a pretty good detective and must have had a reason for not keeping Barnett on the list of suspects. George Hutchinson was also considered a good suspect (he didn't come forward until after the coroner's inquest on Kelly) yet he too fell out of the picture after Abberline questioned him. Today both of them would have been intensly checked out and one wonders if something might have been missed back then. By the time of the Kelly murder the police force in Whitechapel had been tripled, a vigilance committee was also looking for him and prostitutes were more aware and more cautious so it's not really surprising that Kelly was the only victim killed indoors but one wonders if Kelly knew her killer or if the ripper had been stalking her beforehand?
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THEN WHY ARE YOU READING AND PARTICIPATING????
I feel that the Ripper was a Zionist jew with a powerful message to the World at hand.....Don't mess with Us..!
I have been following this for years. I think the Royal Family were behind this Mess. I think they used someone with an knowledge of Anatomy and Surgery, in the Guise of A Cop.
Mike Mc you've covered 3 of the bases (Royal, Doctor, Cop). JTR was the first serial killer our modern industrial society had to deal with so it's not surprising they couldn't catch him. In 1888 police work for the most part depended on either a witness or a confession by the criminal. The "witnesses" in the ripper case weren't all that reliable. For one thing there was a handsome reward out for him and Whitechapel was hardly a community known for chivilry. Plenty of people there would gladly turn in an innocent (or an enemy) for 500 pounds. Forensic science continues to advance and I think we'll know who he is someday.
i personal think that jack had something in-common with the masons/ Royal family, its just hard to think that there was a reword of 100,000 pound in England, the country was in poverty and squealer, someone must of seen something, jack did his work on nights, there were hundreds of homeless people on the streets of London, think about it, there is defiantly a cover up here people.
ow and to the pratts out there stop dicking around and saying your the ripper (what a tool)
Jack the ripper was a prince that injected his self with a certain kind of medicine that the side effects were insanity body odor smelled like apricot and led to violent behavior
OnixBently,
Whaaaat? 100 thousand pounds??? Fort Knox didn't have that much back then. I did a tour of England in 1989. They said J.T.R. was a product of Coca Cola. When I said we didn't start bottling it till 1894 the guide said "My point exactly, you Yanks were feeding it to him by the keg".Sheesh, and they say the Dutch are bullheaded.
i honestly say that jtr is one of the most famous murders ever and i think its cool that they dont teel us his name and i love learning stuuff like thi and im 12 ive always lke learning about famous murders like the manson family murders i find him quit fascinating and i will always like this stuff.
i spelled some things wrong sorry
I see the Depp Movie mentioned a couple of times, are we to believe that a headless horseman was the killers accomplice? If you have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion, sit in the back like a good child, and let the grownups speak.
Marissa,
You speak up anytime you want and don't let someone like Mac bully you out of it. I suspect that most of the "grownups" above would be in your corner. Shame on you Mac. Weren't you ever 12 years old? I'd sure have liked to have had her insight and class when I was that age. Maybe you should take a page or two out of her book.
Thank you adidaspat I am a very smart girl and MAC doesnt have to talk to me like a baby I am turning 13 this month and I am very mature for my age and MAC wants too bully a 12 year old girl now WHOS the grown up here MAC?
And I did see that Depp movie and I liked it thank you very much!!!!
I saw it too. Matter of fact I bought it. Johnny Depp, Heather Graham and Robbie Coltran did a great job. And happy birthday.
thank you for being on my side there have a wonderful day adidaspat;)
With the advancement of forinsic technology I think we will find out who he was someday. Too bad the Marines hadn't encountered him. They'ed have had him for breakfast, drawn, quartered and tenderized.
What do you mean?OOOh my bday is next weekend.
This is not intended as a criticism of an excellent article but there is a typo in that it is 29 Hanbury Street, not Hanburg Street as stated in the article.
My own belief is that the ripper was someone who lived in the area and who was able to blend in with the huge number of dispossessed citizenry to who the area was home. Press reports at the time speak of a huge number of people who lived in the cellars of some of the buildings and who only came out at night. These people were made up of those who had been released from asylums and who had been released from jail.
One of the reasons the ripper was able to escape was because the area then was made up of a warren of narrow passageways and alleyways, very few of which were lit by night.
Add to this the fact that there were over 80 butchers and slaughterhouses in the area that worked through the night (so people were used to seeing people in bloodstained clothing) and you begin to see that, either by luck or choice, Jack the Ripper settled upon the ideal area in which to carry out his crimes!
Good research Richard. RRRood has quite an article here. About 130 responses so far. Marissa, I meant that with modern forensic techniques detectives can now trace a criminal's actions with something as small as a chip particle off of a brick. They can find out what company made it, who bought the brick, at what time and so forth. The Marine comment was just an expression. They (the Marines) have a tradition of honor and a reputation for dishing out as good as they get. The ripper was among the worst of his time. The Marine's are among the best of ours. In otherwords it was just fantasy thinking on my part.
I think he is a pimp and these were his girls and they werent doing what he wanted or giving him his money to he killed them :]
thank u for braken that down for me and i was watching a documentary on jr and they think they found out who he was but he is dead now but he was there living in that area the crimes were commited and he matched the picture of jr and when the crimes were commited he moved that night using todays technology they were able too come up with the evidence and figure out what they couldnt in that time but they think they found out who they think it is but there still workin on it :)
there's no need for foul language people, Jack the Ripper was a real bad man who just killed people for fun, all of his victims were women that's a clue.
no,what if he had split personalitys mabey he had a motive most all people that kill people have motives not alot of people kill just to kill im not saying he had a motive i was just putting it out there :)he might of killed just to kill?????
One thing I hope we always remember about JTR. He was a spineless, murdering coward who preyed upon the most helpless people he could find. The mystery is intriguing but let's never forget what he was. Anyone looking at the crime scenes would know that no decent human being (or even animal for that matter) would do something like that for any type of "cause". Earlier I had posted a comment that he should have been given to the lions of Tsavo. What I meant was that he should have met his end at the hands (claws,teeth) of something just as unfeeling as himself.
Ive been researching him for weeks and hes a very interesting person. yes her or she for that matter should have been caught and put to justice for what he/she did but the entire case and theories of it all are rather amazing. its to bad that evidence deteriorates over the years because it would be amazing to open the case back up with todays technology and see if we would at lease get a little closer to discovering who he/she was.
I've read about JTR being a female. Most of the authors say "she" was an abortionist or midwife. The problem with those theories is that 4 of the 5 canonical victims were well beyond child bearing age (there was no fertalization technology in 1888). Mary Kelly (who was in her mid-twenties) was at first thought to have been pregnant but recent discovery of police reports after the autopsy show no evidence of it which would certainly have been in the report if the attending doctor had said she was. That doesn't mean JTR couldn't have been a woman but with few exceptions women who commit murder don't engage in that kind of mutilation.
its horrible.................
I think that Jack the Ripper was enjoying killing women bec. maybe he thought that hi is creating a kind of art. He kept killing until he found the right female that he really needed for his master piece...
Art?
Oh well, what the heck. Anyway Merry Christmas everybody.
No... YoU wIlL nEvEr KnOw WhO i ReAlLy Am! JuSt CaLl Me jAcK!
crazy IF U GUYS GO ON AN OUER LINK HE MAILED CRAZY LETTERS to his boos ad the presidentsaying a lotof crap and h sad ps watch out for jacky te ripper an i thinkhewasa doctor causehe knew wat he was kutting out what it was caled and he know wthe was doing. they should o cougt him. thats crazy and i thnk hisboss wascrazy to cuz after while he told pp about the letters and heseemed kl about the letters so i think he had ababy called lik jacky te ripper cuz thats wathesaid so i think itcould still be goin on
He was an American quack doctor called Francis tumblety, he had collected
Wombs, was apparently gay and had stole 2 rings from a victim, that we found from him :)
Nah, that's just more of that "Blame it on the Yanks" stuff. Last time I went to England they said he was a product of Coca Cola. Tumblety did collet wombs but he got them from cadavers. He was in England during at least some of the murders but during others he was locked up for exposing himself to some minors. He was also over 6' tall. None of the eyewitness descriptions said he was more than 5'8" and none described him as more than 34 years old. Tumblety was 52 at the time.
diz iz littlemanjojo
bruv
i has my jack d ripper head in a bag
lol
Anyone seen "Time after Time"? Can't figure why they brought him forward to the 1970's of all times and of all places San Francisco. Don't the producer's know they were dropping JTR into Dirty Harry's back yard? He'd have been looking down the barrel of a 44 and hearing "You're shit otta luck".
Hanburg Street, that's a new one on me, ha, ha.
how can jack the ripper be a docter when anyone can remove anything while just knowing where the item is.
A lot of people didn't think he was. At least three of the doctors who examined the bodies of victims didn't think so but of course they had an occupation to protect. If he was just collecting "trophies" then he wouldn't have to know where anything was. Just grab what he could see. I know some authors believe that Eddowes was killed in one of the empty houses and then moved to Mitre Square but wouldn't there be some evidence of that like a blood trail, drag marks or something? The time line barely allows him time to committ the murder and mutilation. How could he possibly have had time to clean things up? I've never read anything about how he could have done that in so short of time. If anyone has please post it. I'd like to know how he did it.
i think the most logical suspect would be a sergical doctor because of the way all the victims were cut up, the man who ever it was knew what he was doing.i just feel sorry for those girls he killed, the whole thing is messed up.Its crazy they never caught the guy.
I believe that Jack was working on his own ac cord as the others followed around him. that could give us many ideas that makes it complicated at times. you can go back then by certain clues. but no d.n.a like back then there were clever murderers that was able to get by some of the murders. but I think by reading what things are being written many of the murders could of been done around the same time that jack was doing his.
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I like your comment but did you look at the photo of Mary Jane Kelly? Looks more like the work of a drunk butcher. I suppose a surgeon who was crazy might do something like that but the photo doesn't indicate much expertise. Such a shame that a person so young who might have turned her life around should have it snuffed out so early. I hope someone really did a job on that bastard.
OKAY CANT THEY PULL UP SOME EVIDENCE AND TRACE FINGERPRINTS BC FINGERPINTS NEVER GO AWAY. I DONT THINK IT WAS ROYALTY. PROBABLY SOMEONE WHO EITHER HAD A MENTAL DISORDER OR JUST HATED WOMEN SPECIFICALLY PROSTITUES. THEY COULD ALSO FIND THE RECORDS OF WHO ALL LONDON DIED IN 1888 BECAUSE THATS WHEN THEN MURDERS STOPPED. AND I AGREE THE MUDERER OF ELIZABETH AND CATHERINE WAS PROBABLY SOMEONE ELSE MAYBE A COPYCAT KILLER. THEY COULD ALSO CHECK WHO ALL MOVEDAWAY FROM LONDON IN 1888 AND WHEN THE MURDERS STARTED THEY CAN CHECK WHO MOVED INTO LONDON IN THAT YEAR. THEY STILL HAVE THE NOTES HE LEFT THE LETTERS FROM HELL THE CAN MAYBE FIND DNA ON IT BU THEY CANT SEE WHO IT MATCHES WITH SINCE HE IS DEAD. AND IF THEY R WAITING FOR HIS LAST FAMILY MEMBER TO DIE WELL THATS DUMB BC WE WOULD WAIT FOREVER. BC HE MITE HAVE HAD A KID MOST LIKELY NOT BUT HIS DESCENDANTS WOUGLDVE HAD KIDS SO THEN THOSE KIDS WOULD BE HIS DESCENDANTS THEN THEYE HAVE KIDS THEN THEIR KIDS WILL HAVE KIDS AND IT WOULD KEEP GOING. AND MAYBE TO YOU YOU THINK NOBODY WILL EVER FIND OUT BUT THERE ARE TONS OF CLUES WE R OVERLOOKING OR DONT NOTICE. I PERSONALLY THINK ITS INTERESTING AND WANT TO FIND THE KILLER BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT JUST HOPING AND WISHING WONT TELL US THE ANSWER.
No but fingerprinting wasn't a used science back then. There were about 30 million Englishmen in the country at that time and prints weren't kept on file in 1888. Even if one could extract prints who would you compare them to? Many of those records were destroyed during the Blitz in World War II. Others were taken and never returned. Even the crime scene photos weren't available until Rumblow discovered them in the 1960's. I know it all sounds negative but if you get a chance ZO you might read Robin O'dell's "Ripperology". He adds a lot of much needed common sense to the mystery.
is jack the ripper even true?
hows it going.
Apparently the killer was a German man, when arrested for slicing the neck of his mothers throat they questioned him and he came out with a response that he had an addiction to kill and mutulate women i think his name was Karl Fagen i dont know for sure its been a while since i've seen the documentry
Something about the Eddowes murder makes me curious. Constable Watkins entered Mitre Square at 1:44 A.M. after having been in the square 14 minutes prior to that. Constable Harvy's patrol beat took him to the enterance of Mitre Square by way of Church Passage. Part of his duties included checking doors and windows down Church Passage up to the enterance of Mitre Square. Mitre Square was not part of his assigned area so it's understandable that he didn't shine his lantern into the square itself yet he said he was at the enterance at around 1:40 A.M. Since there are witnesses who claimed to have seen Eddowes alive before 1:40 A.M. that would leave about a 4 minute time line between Watkins and Harvy. I've looked at several maps drawn of Mitre Square at the time of the murder. All show a street lamp right at the enterance by way of Church Passage. The victim was found next to the abandoned houses directly opposite the Church Passage enterance. She was in the most poorly lit part of the square so it's not surprising that Harvy would not have seen him but what about the other way around? If Harvy was where he said he was then he would have been standing directly under the street lamp. The map shows no view obstruction between the two points nor have I ever read anything indicating that there was any. Couldn't JTR have easily seen Harvy under the street lamp? Would he have continued his mutilation of Eddowes knowing at least one constable was that close? I don't think so. More likley Harvy was not there and just said he was after finding out that a murder had taken place at the time and location where he was supposed to be. He was after all dismissed from the force the following year for unstated reasons. I hate besmirching someone without real proof but I think we have to consider that Harvy may have just skipped that part of his beat and then lied about it later to cover himself.
Wow i forgot about that. that they cant compare the fingerprints to anyone. i will look for that book.
jack the ripper was the great grandmother of our friend hitler
it was also pacman who teamed up with the jellyfish things. they killed the victims by throwing grenades made of rotten baked potato sandwiches
timmy
O.K. people, some of you have good skills in research and other people need to stop goofing off. I believe that Jack was someone who grew up around whitechapel and knew his victums drinking problem. Most of women was around 43 and each one was: a)a prostitute b) were heavy drinkers and c) each one either had their uteris removed or that area was terribly mutilated. Only the last victum was 25 and had her face literrally cut off. This leads me to conclude that Jack the Ripper was a) born of a drunk prostitute b) he hated her and looking at her face or a look alike enraged him and c) he believed she should have never been allowed to have children.
Definately was James Kelley , look at the clues!!!!!!!
i found it cool how everything is mutilated. I like squirrels. Chicken. Pie Cheese roflwaffel Justin Bieber is a lesbo hippo with a bad hair cut.
Uhmm Its very difficult to explain ... Cheesy Potatoes JTR really destroyed those peopleess
Do do do do do DORA! I think JtR had a good heart, at heart but he was corrupted by an evil dark wizard by the name "Merlin". I'm sure he had alot of magic training from the special wizard school he attended. He was mentally challenged and picked on as a kid. He managed to use his magical powers to combat evil cactuses. If JtR were still alive today (which he is) i would say that he would have been (is) a totally awesome giant squid monster baby cat food hamster dodongo catipillar.
I think the man had either mommy issues or women issues!!!!!
JACK THE RIPPER is non other than JOSE RIZAL ( philippine national hero) notice the JR on their initials,,
search and study LIFE AND TRAVEL OF JOSE RIZAL ..and you will know who jack the ripper is...
by the way he is a doctor by profession ,,traveled around the world,,,stay in london from may 1888 to march 1889...few miles where the murders happened..
THIS IS NOT FICTION BUT TRUTH...
HE uses the prostitute as his subject to practice medicine,,etc,,,,etc,,,,
form DIEGO_6668 .....
It seems funny that the police let Catherine Eddowes out at 1/am knowing what she was and where she was going, and then a cop finds her dead. They also hide evidence by not reporting findings at the scene and doctors notes. I think the police were involved.
he was a canible who killed peostatutes
There was never an identity given to Jack the Ripper he killed women as he wanted to. So it is very possible that Jack the Ripper was unable to be found and all the murders were performed late at night or very early so it is very possible to hide in the smog of London's streets. Therefor Jack the Ripper had a perfect cover to hide himself in the London streets.
I think Jack the Ripper was just a pissed off mama's boy. He was taken into the wrong hands and was told to kill some of the women but because his mind was so twisted he killed women without orders given as well. All because his mom didnt wanna spend time with him. Oh I also think he was gay . Also a drag queen thats why he never got caught, he was dressed as a women. His hair color was most likely red. Man I wish he did the killings in the time so we could have caught him and seen what he looked liked ><
I bet there are a bunch of Lil' Baby Rippers in today's world we just dont know who BEWARE!
Actually what I was told is that Jack was a freemason and slept with a hooker and she stole his book so in fear of his own death for loosing his sacred book, he went looking for that hooker and he was serious about it. Then when he found his book the masons killed him.
O ya, he didn't get caught because like 90% of the police force in London at the time were freemasons telling him to find the black book.
Yes and it's known that Freemasons originated as the night Templars fighting for the holy land in Jerusalem against the crusaders. So the term jack wrote on the wall “The JUWES are not the men That Will be Blamed for nothing” that's freemason talk think about it.
that was true but remember it was beleved at the time that he was a ghost. and he also might have been encouraged to kill after polly nichols as a newspaper tied 2 more unrelated cases and it was almost like ''oh my god we have a serial killer no one in whitechapel is safe'' so maybe that encouraged him to live up to the name of what he was described as and after the 2nd murder someone from a newspaper writ a letter signed'Jack the Ripper' and maybe that encouraged him to kill eddowes and kelly in quite the way that he did and if they had seen him with blood on him then he could claim he was out hunting deer or something.
He must have also have been educated in human anatomy and the film from hell only looks at it from 1 point of view out of hundreds.
To all the people that do believe that he was James Kelly mabey he was mabey he wasent but what I think is that he never got caught because mabey some things just have to live on in wonder!?:)
Hey wat up all my Ripper peeps!anyone on today?
hey,uh lucy mabey u should just shut tha f up and let other people say what they want instead of you clutering this page up?>:(
PLEASE!quit saying things about me all i am trying to do is give my opinion just like you are trying to!SO WHY R U GETTING MAD AT ME!?/:(
Ok lucy lets talk about this because if i dont tell you something then i will never get to!:(
Fine then god you dont have to beg oh wait you do you lying b****!
please just hear me out?ok that night i didnt do wat u think that i did do!i was framed!:(
oh really?like he was just trying to be there also,well you know what i mean!>:
hey r u on still?:)
ya im still on what do you want?>:
well i want to talk about that thing that you think happened!
oh i dont know what happened?/>:(
sorry but no!i didnt do it i have been trying to tell you that!:)
well text me that way we can just talk all like alone?:)
hey are you on today Lucy?;)
ya but i have to get off in like 2 seconds.SHORRY!:(
hey i am back on are you still?:)
ya hey wats up?;)
you wanna talk about jack?;)
hi,sure well what do you think about all of those rumers that those people are making about jack?:)
well i dont know because i have to go sorry!:(
hey,sorry that i had to go earlyer but now im on!;)
yay!!:)
so what do you think about Jack?;)
sorry i was sleeping,well like you said earlier i think somethings are ment to go on in wonder!;)
sorry i havent responded its just well i was playing a game and its ADDICTING!!!XO
oh hey i just logged on,LUCKY!
hey sorry about not getting on latly iv been so busy!>:(
YAY!you are back on finally i kept just waiting and waiting for you!so what do you want to talk about?:)
idk wat do u?hey do u ever notice that we r the like only 2 on this page?/:)
well we could talk about awesome Jack was?and ya I have noticed where is everyone!?/:(
thats ok but i just found this way awesome channel on tv!you HAVE to get on it!NOW!!:0
FINE!whats the number?:)
6005 NOW GO RUN ALL THE WAY TO THE CHNNEL AND DONT TALK TO ANYONE!!!!:)LOL
ok im here wats so great about it?its just music?you weirdo!/:)
HOW DARE YOU!its not just music its 50's MUSIC!!!!!!WHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!>XD
ok so its kinda good?
wateva!its awesome!!!and guess wat i just went to the website and requested a song!!!and guess who i requested it for!!XD
who oh why should i even ask!for steven didnt you!!:)
ya but now im sad after this im logging off!!they ended the countdown thing where u can request songs to people!!>:(
NO LUCY WAIT!!
Jack is not dead, for he never really lived. This beast that you look for is in your womb waiting to be let out again (I must get back to work for my knife is sharp). When you all drop your guard your Jack will come back. Sleep tight little ones,Sleep.
from the way the victims was strangled and then their throats slit its either a doctor or butcher.A butcher is more likely to be the suspect as they would know how to kill something without getting blood all over themselves.
Secondly if the victims was killed by any other person I doubt they could have done the work in the dark as was the case..
I think Jack the Ripper was a man and a doctor. I don't believe the story of he escaped a mental house and/or was married and killed his wife. Bc if that were true, his identity would be known already. I also think that it wasn't royalty. It was just a theory, nor the painter Walter Sickert. The artist just painted images he seen in photographs and liked the TOP HEADLINES of those times. - Honestly maybe his identity is hidden from us like a lot of other things the gov't [whoever] doesn't want us to know, or maybe bc they never found out and just want to keep his memory alive with theories. Which if the second "maybe" is right. That;s just sick and shouldn't be done. Who ever this man was killed woman in the dark and had pleasure doing it. He obviously left money beside one of his victims [anne chapman] for a reason. I would love to know who it was and why he did what he did, but we'll never find out. And that's for sure.
yeah I get what your saying Neisha all the gov is trying to do is just hide it!But one day someone will find out!Mabey?
For the one who says that your a writer...LEARN HOW TO WRITE!
your not texting here if you are a writer then even if you were on your phone or ipod or whatever you should be able to write a whole lot better than what you did here
For the people who think that if you worship the devil you kill...if you "worship" the devil you don't necessarily kill anyone, its a choice of what you believe in. People whoo kill sometimes kill out of pleasure, curiosity, anger, revenge, and other multiple reasons. Some kill for research to learn about the body or to have a live subject. It DOES NOT mean you worship the devil.
Im not saying im correct but i think that maybe just maybe he wanted a better world and in his eyes prostitutes were not in the picture and he might of thought that he needed to get rid of them.
he might have been the Hitler of his time what do we know.
People who saw the movie..dont rely that the movie is the answer and try to connect fact with the movie. If the wrold has learned anything about movies is that movies aren't always write and that anything with johnny depp in it is just a stupid movie.
serial killers generally have a high IQ anyway. Just because it's been stated that the Ripper had to have some knowledge of anatomy doesn't mean anything. Even a kid could cut out various organs. There is no evidence to prove that the Ripper knew which body organs were which, just that he enjoyed removing them. I believe the police did a terrible job, and tried going to the obvious. For all anyone knows, this could have been tag team female serial killers that had a vengence against whores.
well actually theres this guy on tv that has actually found the identity it wasnt for absolutely sure but the evidence was extremely strong. a lunatic who escaped from an aslum then married and stab his wife the throat. then went to london and to newyork.
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Really an educated doctor?? haha wow how ignorant are you?
i think he was a surgeon cuz why then wud u remove there organs for all we know he could be the real dr frankenstein
Im 11 years old and looking at the case. Im looking a ALL the information and by the looks of it, Jack was a mad man. He sent a kidney of one of the victims to the Investigator, Mister Lusk. He stalked his victims until he got them to the right time! He was killing only prostitutes and he sent letters to his "boss" saying things like: I love my job, i shant stop until im buckled and even then look out for old jacky. Honestly, I think this dude should have been put in the nuthouse! AND HE FRIED AND ATE THE OTHER KIDNEY SAYING IT WAS YUM!
I just did a little more research, John Druitt did kill himself after the murders.Yet they stopped. And something my little eye caught; George Chapman. He was trained and certified as a barber in Poland, then worked as a barber in Whitechapel. The day he got promoted, Mary Anne Nichols died that night. And the day Annie Chapman died, George Chapman was believed to have had an argument earlier in the day. but do you see what littley eye caught? Annie Chapman, victim. George Chapman,Suspect. They both have the same last name. Police also found a knife and a vile of poison in his barber. But I dont know what the poison has to do with it. this cas eis twisting my mind. Ive read all the Ripper Letters,it doesnt add up.My little voice in the world says that Eddy, John Druitt and George Chapman were somehow working as one twisted, crazy mind. but then comesin an artist. Walter Sickert. He had an obsession with the crimes and drew sketches and portraits of the murder scenes. I'm telling you, ripper was NUTS!
How can they catch me now I love the work want to start again
i herd that the killings may have comtinued after the last victom they where haveing very simler killings in newyork rigth after jack disapered
whoever jack the ripper was he had to be an educated and rich person.It is pretty obvious as grapes were affordable only by rich and at every murder site grapes were found.The sites where they wern't are said to be the sites where body was placed after the murder.The removal of kidneys prove that he is a surgeon as no butcher would have access to a fruit as expensive as grapes.It is even possible that these victims knew their murderer as these random killings stopped after the 5th murder.Maybe there was some relation between the victims not to mention that if jack the ripper was just a homocide who enjoyed killing he would not stop till he was caught.something must have driven these mysterious killings.They were done for a reason.
whoever jack the ripper was he had to be an educated and rich person.It is pretty obvious as grapes were affordable only by rich and at every murder site grapes were found.The sites where they wern't are said to be the sites where body was placed after the murder.The removal of kidneys prove that he is a surgeon as no butcher would have access to a fruit as expensive as grapes.It is even possible that these victims knew their murderer as these random killings stopped after the 5th murder.Maybe there was some relation between the victims not to mention that if jack the ripper was just a homocide who enjoyed killing he would not stop till he was caught.something must have driven these mysterious killings.They were done for a reason.
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On the history channel yet had substantial amount of evidence pointing towards a man that had escaped from a mental institution and had been in the same places and had left London at the same time as jackets ripper and the same boat also that man had returned later in his life to that same institution and had given a confession that he had put a lot of things in there linking him to the murders of these people
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if ya'll really pay attention to the facts, Jack The Ripper was after the prostitutes and yet at the same time, there were more then just prostitutes out on the streets, why didn't he killed a regular person besides a prostitute? of course a easy theory would be that him and hers would be alone but he didn't really bother regular citizens. So my guess that he can get away by muderering someone easier. but still it seems to be odd. the other thing is that He was brutal and a blood thirst killer but at the same time, doing all the set ups and all, look at the times when the prostitutes were killed. between 1 and 2 a.m. that is not just a regular Serial killer. they would mainly just go and kill without a solution or plans but Jack, he had something in mind when he was killing his 5 victims. and he only took the main organs of the body and not much of anything else? could he be a part of an oocult? or just a smart/brutal killer? and the Whitechapel indistries? if this was going on and why wouldn't they just send 2 detectives of in the area of whitechapel or just tried to have a guard watch? I can say they all tried hard but at the same time, it doesn't take much to think of a pattern of Jack The Ripper. 5 victims were killed mainyl slit by the throat, only took important organs from his 5 victims then just disapear afterwards and never seen or heard of again? does this at all makes any sense of being a normal mad man or serial killer? I don't think so.
Im comin to get you guys...
herp a derp derp, he was obviously crazy yet genius! maybe he was an idiot sevonte of murder!
Art from 6 weeks ago I like how u think a lot of what ur saying makes since to me and to being part of a cult a very high maybe bjust cuz of what he took but to be sure on that u would have to see where he killed each victim if its a ritural thing there be a paternal but the real question is how to solve a 100 year old unsolved murder's
JACK WAS COOL!!!
i wached from hell it is grim!
The Jack the Ripper case has been solved. The problem is, the age of the case and the overwhelming hypothesis of the identity of this crazy man. The true identity is pushed aside because of hashed theories in the forefront of the public perception. An artist with a his own deformity, led him to a mental rage against women. This rage had been kept inside hidden. After seeing a hit play at the time was able to unleash it. The play "Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde". The deformity of the madman was to his male productive organ. The Man was Walter Seigart.
The Jack the Ripper case has been solved. The problem is, the age of the case and the overwhelming hypothesis of the identity of this crazy man. The true identity is pushed aside because of hashed theories in the forefront of the public perception. An artist with a his own deformity, led him to a mental rage against women. This rage had been kept inside hidden. After seeing a hit play at the time was able to unleash it. The play "Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde". The deformity of the madman was to his male productive organ. The Man was Walter Seigart.
Jack the ripper was not a dr. but he knew alot about the human body and all. Jack the ripper didnt jsust kill his victims just to wacth them die but he ate them too... Jack was not a police man he was a rich guy with lots of power and i have study lot on him for school and i am sure he was not jusr a killer but a cold bold killer...
Jack the ripper was nothing but a loser that probely couldnt get his way with women and he was a dum ass and rapped and killed women. and the a other thing my mother said he didnt rap them but i belive he did but why would he kill them but also why rap a hooker? i still got a lots of question
A modern detective was given full access to all the surviving evidence on the case a few years ago (true). He stated that, after all these years, there was no way to prove anything for certain but evidence did point to the fact that Jack may have fled England to the United States. And everywhere the suspect he charted went, the same type of murders occurred but no one, back then, put the two together. A plausible theory and an interesting one.
it is said jack could be an artist, or even a member of the royal family! either way, we shall not no for sure untill someone, somewhere demands the truth! this implying that jack was a man or woman that was slightly put-out but no matter what,
i think its cool & fasinating!
The movie from hell is like 99% lies if you want to know the real story u shuld go on the jack the ripper walk in London by Donald Rumbelow he rote a book called The complete Jack the ripper he is realy intresting i just endid my tour with him i just wanted to share it with you.
I have never seen a worse group for spelling or grammar, congratulations.
if you have ever read the autopsy report of Catherine Eddowes, there is no way you would consider her killer a doctor. it's basically some nasty, rooting around inside the poor woman's abdominal cavity, taking away the bits he fancied. he may have only killed 5 women, but he must have assaulted and/or cut others before that, in his 'learning period', before he worked his way up to the killing. the violence escalated with each one, and after Kelly, it'd doubtful he would be able to pretend sanity at all.if he was wandering the streets or wherever, acting crazy, he could have been locked up as a lunatic. he couldn't have been a royal, a doctor, or even middle class. he would have stood out too much in the slums. he lived there. he worked there. the prostitutes would have known him. he would have been a customer.it's been established that all his victims were working when they were killed, but no money was found on any of them. i discount the coins, etc arranged around the body of Chapman...sounds too much like reporters trying to sell papers, and there was nothing like it with any of the other victims. so i think the killer took whatever coins they had. not something an upper class killer would think of.
Jack the ripper was the Dukes private pro doctor. Where else could they find what they need and try out for what purpose.
Doesn't need a Genie to figure that out.
jack ther riper was the kqueens nephew a nd and absoult idiot who loved to kill hookers
jack the ripper was the queen victorias nepew prince eddie the duke of clarence and i think he was jack the ripper because when the murders stopped in the uk and started in the usa he was in the usa and thats wh7y i think he killed the hookers.:( chalie sheen would be very upset if this happened today
Does anyone know how they tried to solve the case??? its really comfusing and im trying to write my term paper for english....... thanks :)if you have an answer you can reach me at Colleen.Mackill@gmail.com
I walk to work near most his killings every day creepy.
To the people who think these crimes were committed by free masons or masons. You guys are simply stupid, you obviously don't know the true history of the Freemasons. So instead of watching stupid, irrelevant movies, go to the library and research it, dumbasses.As well as the people who think the queen's nephew is the suspect, why would the queen's nephew even bother killing women? He's the queen's nephew for christ sake! Also if you read the whole article you would get a glimpse of understanding why he would do what he did to those poor women. R.I.P
Deena, I think your theory is just about the closest but obviously we will never know. As for those people who name call and abuse others on this site just ask yourself why you need to do that? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. There are 7 billion people on the planet all with their own unique story to tell. Chill out and enjoy all these differences and you will have a more pleasurable life.
from hell is not the real story
I don't believe it was a doctor, but a butcher, or butcher's assistant. I also wonder, has anyone considered that it could have been a Jew after another Jew? Because of the writing on the wall? Syphilis has also been speculated on because of how he mutilated the faces of the women. Food for thought anyway.
I believe that most people can learn from Jack the Ripper from Adam the Ripper because he is a serius person to have under your belt to think with because you do not understand anything. In life or the real human conveying issues to manipulate time to water and air. Making the belief of human connection stronger to the conenction of god. The ability of this post of natural being ordinary is simmilar to Adam the Rippers mind. The dream then was to become popular.
i think fredrick deely done this thats all i have to say
It is simple to solve. Who had the most to gain or loose. The Freemasons were invovled. The killing were a cover up just like now they control the masses with fear. The killer could not have been an ondinary man. At this time most people could not reed. These were masonic killing done with surgical percison. Ritual killings as the Egyption did while removing of organs. The Petagram trangle up one down+ each other the ancient syble that the (Bauer) put it together making the so called star of david. They hung a Red sign on their door so dealer would know they are of the ancient bloodline that has been mannipulting humanity after the fall keeping us in darkness. Queen Victoria was the blood that seald all the roal familes together. Her nephew had a son & he was married to a catholic not good for the church of England & not the illuminati that were once knights of the Temple. They need to keep us in a illusion of freedom while the universe is mind =spirit. The Ancient Egyption& Greeks tried to re educate the world but there are those that for power & greed will destroy everthing. herodotus was called the father of all lyers. Solon brought back truth but was not able to tell of it. We Use oil, Fossil fulls when tesla showed thw we can tap in the Earth's Ley Lins as the Egyptions did. I could bing all sorts of things to the table but you cattle know one thing & that is how to get fatten up for you slaughter. The Ripper was a ceation of the Engish Royals & their flunkies. Why do the Brits Worrship the norman bloodline when we are engl Saxons. William the basterd (conquer of the last of the celt Englo, & Saxon. Let not thank them for their tyrrany " God save the Merovingian bloodlines. Remember your goverment always has your best interest at heart....... NOT Killing in the name of Johova the first nazi. Hey lets burn down library of Alexandria, only in the name of god or country. I got got a great plan start a war & pray to god that our side kills more Since its the same god . Cattle wake up!
Im related to Mary Ann Nichols the fist victim.
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Weishaupt was not seeking to create a secret society whose aim was to enslave mankind, but one which sought to liberate man and cultivate his freedom and morality. Weishaupt writes of how any person wishing to join the Order of the Illuminati out of a thirst for power is acting contrary to the society's aims:
'If you seek power, might, false honour, excess, then ... we shall leave you to the consequences of your folly
Adam weishoupt was against the way total power corrupted. He didn't like the way knowledge was hidden & not made availble to all. He seen that the money lenders & property owners kept control. He even said the first man who put the illusion on the people by saying," this river is mine of piece of land pulled a quick one overthe peoples eyes. So he was against civilization in that manner. He belived the all land, knoledge & water,was for all. He was a Jesuit in the catholic church & didn't like it because religion was a form of control. He started the illuminati in Bavaria. He got backing from the Rothschild because he needed money. That was the worse act he ever did they are for &everything he was against.; making the Illuminati corrupt= freemasons. Builders of civlization after everyone falls. They make sure that they stay behind the sceins running things royal corts government & all. The people in the whitechapel area were very poor. They left their coutry to find a better way. Remeber Qeen Victoria was the Queen that nitted all the Royal bloodlines together so the countries these people left were partly hers. A sewage treatment plant was more inportant than her subjects. I t was made to resemble a palace, it had marble floors brass trimming & guess where she had it placed, right in the middle of the whitechapel area. People started to grow ill from it. Very sad when we don't relize that civilization means to be civil to each other & have compassion. To have impathy & make it our problem to educate & help our bothers because I am my brothers keeper.
Weishaupt was not seeking to create a secret society whose aim was to enslave mankind, but one which sought to liberate man and cultivate his freedom and morality. Weishaupt writes of how any person wishing to join the Order of the Illuminati out of a thirst for power is acting contrary to the society's aims:
'If you seek power, might, false honour, excess, then ... we shall leave you to the consequences of your folly
. His real idea was that relidgion, money, power corrupted. Read Nesta Webster's Plot against civilization or world Revolution. Illumination is a very great thing, it has its polarities ( oposits
wtf this has no point what so ever who wuld want to learn about this. i would.
He was my greay grandpa....i dont really care though....
A friend of mines greatgranma said it was a member of the royal family.
Hey you got all the facts right, but I was juse wondering what about Martha Tabran and Emily Dimmock?
Thanks
Didint someone escape?
Jack the ripper is one of the worlds most infamous killers.being he knew the exact location of the liver does in fact tell us he is an educated man or a man of medicine; however, the lack of skill in the removal of the organ puts doubt on the fact. I myself believe he was at least somewhat introduced in the medical field. he had certain knowledge only a man science would know. i believe the the removal of the organs was sloppy due to the fact he was rushed in each murder. trying to carry out proper dissection in an open street. Come on people we all know he would not have had the time to do it right. putting all the facts on the table in front of you clearly shows he had knowledge of medicine.
Greetings!
Jack the Ripper was but an imaginary figure created by Royalty, the Masons... and the hand of a painter - Walter Sickert
Jack still remains a mystery well over a century since his brief appearance.
The truth surrounding the Whitechapel murders has been silenced forever.
Much like a traitor locked away in the 'tower'
And its tale will never be told.
However, maybe some of the answers to the enigma can be found in ART?
Or the ART of GRAPHOLOGY?
The names of Walter Sickert and Jack the Ripper are made up by 13 letters.
Both names can be split into 4 decibels / sounds - ie
WAL - TER - SIC - KERT ........ JACK - THE - RIP - PER
In both names there are exactly the same vowels positioned in exactly the same order.
These being A E I E
w A l t E r s I c k E r t
j A c k t h E r I p p E r
The first letter of the victims surnames are?
S tride C hapman K elly E ddowes T abram = SCKET
Mary Ann Nichols = MAN
We 'commoners' may never know the answers re Whitechapel 1888.
Nonetheless my research will continue.
For I know that my findings are both novel and unique.
RIP - Stephen Knight
Kind Regards and have a nice day!
Jackdaw :-)
ps
Should you wish to see the clues that Walter Sickert secreted within his portraits re The Royal Conspiracy and the images of Jack the Ripper :-
JACK THE RIPPER : THE ART OF CONSPIRACY
http://www.historum.com/blogs/jackdaw+1888/
JACK THE RIPPER : SICKERT & THE ART OF MURDER
Jack the Ripper was a seral killer in London, England. He only killed women because it was a easy target. He also did it for his sexual amousment.
Joseph Barnet,the ginger beer bottle left in mary kellys room the ink. the missing heart. broken heart. the pipe he left behind. forgotten. then the description. and finally the catch me if you can fishermans phrase?OR it was netly and the masons? what happened to baby alice? Do the detective work.it is not that hard!!!why was the queen involved? her physician maybe?
Jack the ripper only killed girls cause they are weak and can't fight that good they be scared even when this guy comes in and kills them they ain't going to do nothing they just going to stand there in shock being a little girl and screaming their heads off till he kills them. women are stupid when it comes to things like this.
True...... red haired girls and blond haired girls are stupid....but blond haired girls are really hot...........Brown haired girls are smart and hot to......
2 years ago
royalty has blood on there hands